Full text : Report from the Select Committee on Slave Trade (East Coast of Africa); together with the proceedings of the Committee, minutes of evidence, appendix and index

Rev.
H.  Waller.

24  July
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MINUTES  OF  EVIDENCE  TAKEN  BEFORE  SELECT  COMMITTEE

there  is  always  a  certain  amount  of  swamp  land
available  in  the  neighbourhood  of  lakes  and
rivers,  in  which  corn  can  be  grown  at  all  times
of  the  year.  When  we  were  in  the  highlands,
in  1863  and  1864,  in  the  neighbourhood  of  the
Shire,  all  the  population  which  was  not  swept  off
accumulated  at  the  river  ;  and  it  was  a  very
frightful  state  of  things  there,  because  the  people
flocked  to  the  river,  perfectly  famished  and  perfectly ­
  mad  with  hunger,  and  they  risked  their
lives  for  the  sake  of  a  few  heads  of  corn.  The
river  all  day  long  was  carrying  down  the  dead
bodies  of  those  who  had  been  fighting  amono-st
themselves,  like  starving  dogs  quarrelling  over  a
bone.  The  postulation  is  very  dense  indeed  on
Lake  Nyassa  at  present.
980.  Some  of  that  pojtulation  would,  in  the
course  of  time,  sjtread  over  the  dejtopulated  district ­
  ?—Yes,  if  there  was  anything  like  peace.
981.  Mr.  FowlerIs  not  the  water  on  the
coast  very  dangerous  to  drink  ?—I  do  not  believe
it  has  the  effect  attributed  to  it  ;  I  have  drunk
the  vilest  water  possible,  and  yet  remained  in
most  perfect  health  ;  if  a  man  in  bad  health
drinks  bad  water,  or  bad  beer,  or  anything  else,
it  may  kill  him  ;  I  do  not  believe  as  some  people
do,  that  a  draught  of  bad  water  will  be  sure  to
bring  on  fever  or  dysentry.
982.  ^  Sir  R.  Anstruther^  With  regard  to  the
probability  of  the  depopulated  district  becoming
again  inhabited,  the  fertility  of  the  soil,  and  the
salubrity  of  the  climate,  which  induced  peojile  to
go  there,  and  cultivate  the  soil  in  time  past,
would  operate  as  inducements  to  people  to  go
there  again,  would  they  not?—Yes;  this  part  of
the  country  is  full  of  little  streams  ;  in  fact,  it

was  some  time  before  I  knew  what  the  native
word  for  thirst  was,  though  you  may  hear  the
word  for  hunger  from  morning  to  night.  I  neve^
saw  a  better  watered  country  in  my  life  (when
you  get  on  the  low  lands,  in  fact,  you  have  too
much  Avater),  and  where  you  have  water,  you  are
sure  to  have  plenty  of  cultivation.  We  hear  of
African  deserts,  but  that  term  only  applies  to  the
extreme  South  and  the  extreme  North  of  Africa;
there  is  not  an  approach  to  a  desert  in  the  interior
at  all,  it  is  a  very  fertile  country  throuo-hout.
983.  Mr.  Kinnaird.'\  You  referred  just  now  to
the  suggestion  that  a  European  settlement  might
be  established  at  some  point  near  the  coast?-'
I  referred  to  a  suggestion  in  a  letter  I  recently
received  from  Dr.  Kirk  ;  he  found  it  necessary
to  make  a  journey  for  one  or  two  days  into  the
interior  of  the  country  to  push  on  some  of  the
porters  Avho  were  conveying  provisions  to  Dr-Livingstone,
  and  he  then  passed  through  a  part
of  the  country,  which  he  found  exceedinWy
healthy  and  fertile,  and  which  he  thought  could
be  very  well  inhabited  by  any  Europeans.
984.  You  have  no  suggestion  to  make  to  the
Committee  further  than  you  have  made,  as  to
the  policy  of  establishing  a  coast  settlement  for
Europeans  ?—Seeing  that  it  must  be  obvious  to
all  of  us,  that  it  would  help  us  out  of  a  difficulty
if  we  could  provide  for  these  liberated  slaves,  h
Avould  be  a  most  important  thing  if  a  European
settlement  could  be  established  near  Zanzibar,
where  they  could  be  carefully  looked  after  ;  and
I  consider  it  most  fortunate  that  Dr.  Kirk  has,
in  his  opinion,  discovered  a  place  recently  where
such  a  settlement  could  be  formed.
            
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