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Mr. CLArRkE. On the other hand, there is no pro ositi 
to the representatives of the various locals who voted if thon, put a 
were not instructed? 
Mr. SExAUER. That is right. 
Mr. CLARKE. I am a member of that board, and so far as my 
membership and directorship is concerned there has been no expression 
of opinion; it is left to me the same as this is left to Mr. Sexauer——— 
Mr. SEXAUER. Yes. 
Mr. CLARKE (continuing). To use his own good judgment; and 
when you get back to it fundamentally, given anv intelligence on 
the part of the farmers themselves, they have confidence in us and 
in our judgment, and when they have not, so far as I am concerned 
they can kick me out. 
Mr. Apkins. The point I am making is that the majority of this 
board will not have taken action unless they thought it would have 
met the approval of the constituents. 
Mr. CrarkEe. That is all right; but so far as reflected judgment 
of the producers is concerned, there is mighty little. 
Mr. Apkins. That is not what I am contending, but my point 
is that these men certainly would not have taken this action unless 
they thought it would meet the approval of the farmers they repre- 
sent. I got called severely yesterday for amplifying a statement 
which this man made when he started his statement here by stating 
that they did not expect to use it, but they appreciated if they 
didn’t favor some legislation to keep these fellows on their own 
products in the West that they would have been having them in 
the same position. 
Mr. WirLiams. They are not seeking this legislation to take 
advantage of themselves, but it is good for somebody else. I think 
everybody understands his testimony as expressing our case. 
Mr. KiNncHELOE. They would take the sirup of fies and give 
the quinine to somebody else. 
The CuHairMAN. I believe we are all agreed that the aim of the 
bill is to make it possible for the farmers to market their commodities 
in the way that would give them the benefit of our protective laws 
already established, more particularly the tariff. I understood you 
to say that you are getting the benefits of the tariff. Therefore 
you could not expect to gain anything by this bill. That your 
organization has brought about a marketing plan that gives the 
producer the benefit of the tariff now. 
Mr. Sexaver. I did not entirely claim that. I think that that 
organization has without question done a great many things which 
have brought about conditions that give it the benefit of the tariff. 
The CHAIRMAN. You are receiving the benefits of the tariff now? 
Mr. SExavER. I believe that they are receiving to quite an extent 
the benefits of the tariff at the present time. 
The CHARMAN. But vou believe your people are entitled to the 
tariff and all protection laws already established. 
Mr. SexarEr. I think there is no question about that. I do not 
think we can exist without it. } 
The Cuamrvan. If you are not getting the benefit of the tariff 
you would then be in favor of making the protective tariffs effective. 
Mr. SExAUvER. You mean making this law? 
The CaairMAN. I mean making our protective laws effective.