34 NATIONAL ORIGINS PROVISION OF IMMIGRATION LAW 
The Cramuman. You made some rather harsh remarks about those 
who are opposing national origins as being influenced by “lip serv- 
ice” to a law that they would subsequently repeal if they could, 
and I was wondering whether the Secretary of State, the Secretary 
of Commerce, and the Secretary of Labor were in that category, in 
your view? 
Mr. Lroyp. No, sir. In that statement I spoke of the organized 
opposition. 
The Cuarman. Oh, yes. 
Mr. Lrovp. I have also spoken of the misunderstanding—the wide- 
spread misunderstandings which have resulted from the propaganda 
emanating from those sources. 
The Crmamrman, Well, is it your opinion that Mr. Hoover was 
laboring under a delusion in respect to the matter when he declared 
flatly for the repeal, in his acceptance speech, of the national origins 
proposition ? 
Mr. Lroyp. I think Mr. Hoover must have been acting on inac- 
curate information. I can not believe that Mr. Hoover has really 
studied this thing and could reach such a conclusion as he mentioned. 
The CrarryaN. Generally we have the opinion that he does not 
speak unless he is fairly well advised and has reached that conclusion 
after mature deliberation. 
Mr. Lroyp. I can only give you the best opinion I have on the 
subject, = 
Senator Reep. I do not think Mr. Hoover ought to be on trial here, 
without having the privilege of facing his accusers. I thought we 
were here to consider the immigration law. 
The CratrmaxN. Quite so. 
Senator Ree. And not to go into a psychological analysis of Mr. 
Hoover. 
The Crairman. No. But the first witness you present questions 
the good faith and honesty and the intentions of everybody who 
might oppose this law; and because he questioned T wanted to know 
how far be went in his questioning. 
Senator Rep. I did not understand he questioned—— 
The Cuairman. That was exactly his language. He has now 
corrected it by saying that he referred to those various societies. 
Mr. Lroyn. I was very careful—I think if the stenographer would 
turn back it would be shown. I realized just that possibility of mis- 
understanding of me. and TI think T was very careful to say that it 
was the organized societies; and I have also said, and I want to repeat 
it again, that there were a great many people who misunderstand the 
question—— 
The Crarrman. I am very glad to have the correction. 
Senator Reep (interposing). Both his statements? Co 
The Cuamman. Both of his statements, because originally you 
did not say “organized,” and there are some gentlemen upon this 
Committee who are, I take it from what has existed in the committee, 
opposed to the national-origins proposition. Their good faith I 
concede just as readily as I concede the good faith of those who 
favor it. 
Mr. Lroyp. Yes, sir; and we—-— 
The Cuarrman. And I wanted to make that very plain, and that 
was the only reason, may I say to the Senator from Pennsvlvania.