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same load of poles, to use the language of;the street? Now do you 
really think that would be worth something to do that? 
Mr. Gray. I think it would be worth something to do it, but 1 
qualify your question by saying that we are not marching up the hill 
with the same load of poles. This bill is, using the words that 
Congressman Williams used the other day, substantially different 
from the bill which was presented to the President before; but it is 
substantially similar to the other bill in one feature. 
Mr. Jones. I think in the main feature it is very similar to the 
other bill, and that was the reason for my other question as to whether 
you had any reason to hope for approval. Now, if you have some 
hope of approval of the measure, even in its substantially changed 
form, I can see very readily why it might be better, and I think 
Sed poe some reason why it may be better even though there was 
Mr. Gray. We are on the fighting line, Congressman i 
behalf of this bill, and whatever the patter might be * We are 
willing to meet it. Whenever the membership of these various farm 
groups change their position which, as I indicated in answering 
Congressman Andresen’s question this morning, would be a long 
time coming about, because farm groups do not change their position 
quickly—they can not, their physical make-up does not permit them 
to do it—whenever that condition comes around, whoever represents 
these groups might come before this committee and its successor 
with a different position. But that is some time in the future, and 
i 4 o resent tenor and frame of agricultural mind, it is not 
of pir ees 1 was Just trying to get a thorough understanding 
Mr. KincaeLoE. Mr. Gray, I want to ask esti 
[Inasmuch as this seems to bo just a question brass there 1a n 
question whether we are going to abolish Congress and the Agricul 
tural Committee and just have a President. I want to asl 3 ou . 
few questions along that line. So far as responsibility is concorn a. 
and so far as the Congress and the mémbers of this  ommittes are 
onagmme L an the farmers, that is a question which the individual 
: ongress has to decide. So far as I am concerned I 
not running to cover, and I am not excited. I have not a word on 
earth to say against the President because he saw fit, in the ex 
De Drerogative, to veto the McNary-Haugen bill; but he did not 
re ri 1 i 
ir en Ne ho Adil than we had to pass it. 
to a Red tn question whether there is a movement 
here, that is a splendid attitude. in eho, on some future bil 
JT BO na e, In my judgment, to put the Congress 
iy member when I used to read the Constitution i I 
at we had three branches of the G enstitution it provided 
was not only the nie: ? e Government and that the Congress 
then it is un tot ator but, the one that enacted the legislation 
pb to the President to sign it or veto it, b i id 
veto it, Congress still had the right by tw thi d WE even If ho did 
anyhow. It looks like the people ab a tim I one, a Da it 
tatives were framing the Constitution we 2 kh ge their reprosen- 
gress to enact legislation. So I £11 and on th of looking to Con- 
still stand on that Constitution.