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AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 
Now, then, this bill is available if the time comes when you get 
on an export basis and have to depend on the world’s market— 
this bill is available for you to operate under if you need to. If not 
necessary, you will not operate under it. Looking upon it as being 
for the general good, not only for yourselves but for agriculture 
generally, you would be here. 
So far as taking the money. out of the Treasury directly to sub- 
sidize it, the taxpayer is smart enough to know all that money will 
have to come back and be gotten from him in some other way. So 
[ can not see where anybody needs to have a fit about some industry 
that can see where they can get a direct benefit from helping other 
industries with their influence to get on a level so they will not be 
competing with them. Where is there anything inconsistent about 
it or anything unfair or anything unjust about it. 
Mr. KincaELOE. What is your question? 
Mr. Apxins. 1 think at the very outset of your statement you 
set out very clearly that you wanted our people—— : 
Mr. AswerL. I want to know, too, what is your statement? 
Mr. Apxins. I did not interrupt you gentlemen. 
Mr. Kincueroe. I would like to ask the witness if he has any. 
Mr. Apkins. May 1 proceed? 
Mr. KincaeLoe. We think we know your position on this bill. 
Mr. Apkins. When you were making your statement I did not 
interfere with you, and I am not going to be interfered with myself. 
~ Mr. KincHELOE. You take more time of this committee putting 
your own views in this record than all the other members put together. 
[If you examine the record you will find that to be correct. 
Mr. Apxins. I think the gentleman from Kentucky takes up 
Shows a much time as anvone, and I am objecting to being inter- 
rupted. 
Mr. KincaELOE. I want to know what your question is going to be. 
Mr. Apxkins. I think you made your statement very clear as to 
the reasons why you are here. I think you announced in the record 
fairly why you were here. I am sure Brother Kincheloe—— 
~ Mr. KincHELOE. Ask a question. The point I am making is that 
[ like to see members of this committee ask questions and develop 
all the facts that are possible to be developed. But I am getting a 
little leary and a little tired—and I think I speak the sentiment of 
about 20 others—for a man to sit here and put his ideas forward and 
give his statement, and then ask no questions on the subject, but see 
if the witness agrees with him. 
Mr. Apxins. 1 think .every member of this committee—I could 
name two or three—has been very free to inject their opinions in the 
record and make statements in this record. I am not objecting to it, 
but I think it comes with mighty bad grace from members of this 
committee who are given to the habit just as much as anybody else 
bo sit here and criticise other members for doing the same thing I do. 
Mr. Fort. Mr. Sexauer, your theory is that the passage of the 
Haugen bill will probably maintain the relative relationship in farming 
that now exists between the grain and cotton growers on the one 
hand and the dairy interests on the other; that the production will 
probably remain relatively the same? 
Mr. SExaUER. I am accepting the statements of the men who are 
interested in those commodities as to what they say this bill will do,