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ON SLAVE TRADE (EAST COAST OF AFRICA). 
be established would be in the interior of 
island, which General Rigby has told us is 
^tremely unhealthy. 
t ] If the depot were es- 
^WisPg(j jjj Zanzibar, would not you be afraid 
^^t they might be taken as slaves again ?—That 
Quid depend on the measures that might be 
with a view to their protection ; if ample 
Gasures were taken, and the place became 
l^^ilised, then the children might be secure, but 
present the children would be as likely to be 
^dnapped as not. 
1349. Mr. Fowler.Have you any mission at 
Zanzibar ?—No. 
1350. Mr. J. Talbot.l If they were put under 
the protection of the British flag at Zanzibar, 
what objection would there be to their being 
kept there ?—It is an open question ; if the 
Government decide on Zanzibar for a depot, no 
doubt our committee would consider the pro 
priety of going to Zanzibar. 
1351. Mr. Ki.nnaird.\ The experiment at Nas- 
sick has answered thoroughly, has not it ? —It 
has been most satisfactory. 
Rev. Horace Waller, called in ; and further Examined. 
>.1352. Chairman.^ You have a letter from 
Livingstone, from which you wish to read 
j'aille extracts to the Committee? — Yes; this 
„^tter is dated 1st February 1867 ; he is writing 
the country of the Chipéta, which he de- 
^^^ibes to be five days march from Lake Nyassa on 
east of it, and he says, ‘‘ I am a perfect bug- 
to these Coast Arab slave traders. Party 
^Iter party, on hearing that the English were 
?^Riing along the road, skedaddled away through 
^V®h and brake and across pathless forests ; one 
old party, who had about 800 slaves, and 
just entering on a depopulated district of 10 
pys’ march with them, finding that I had 
^§bted on him, came forward and presented ;in 
^ and big bag of flour. This man and brother 
^^ded a dish of cooked meat on seeing that we 
really famishing. We had pretty hard lines 
150 miles ; could not get food for either love 
money ; and then the depopulated part ! I 
.^Coniplished it on the morning of the eighth 
with four companions ; our food was all ex- 
l^^iided on the sixth day, and it was in hard 
blight that this good Samaritan slave trader be- 
a friend indeed.” He afterwards says, 
^•^ear the sea coast the country is covered with 
^^iise forest. Further inland the forest is more 
pen, but you seldom see the horizon ; then the 
^Untry becomes undulating, and, from the crests 
, the earthen waves you may see mountains all 
Pout. The country about Mataka is Mago- 
*P®^o magnified ; a perfect rush of running rills 
flowing southwards and northwards, forming the 
Liendi and Rovuma, which unite at Ngomano. 
I counted 15 of these burns in one day’s 
march.” Further on, speaking of the slave 
traders, he says, “ Instead of a steamer, 
which 1 did my best to get on the lake, 
two Arab dhows ply their calling as slavers. 
The owner of one has swept a large tract on 
the western side of people ; at least, so say his 
own people. I hey kept their craft out of my 
way lest I should burn them.” In another part 
of his letter, he says, Some Arabs were fleeing 
from the resentment of Manganja, who resented 
their bringing arms and ammunition into the 
country for their destruction.” He is there re 
ferring to the plan adopted by the slave dealers 
of bringing arms and ammunition to set one tribe 
against the other. I can speak distinctly to the 
fact of its being the chief aim of the slave 
traders to set one tribe against the other, in order 
that they may bring war and the consequent 
destruction into the country which produces ju^t 
the state of things that makes slaves cheapest. 
Then further on, speaking of travelling with the 
Africans, he says, With them we crossed Kirk’s 
range, and got among Manganja in the primitive 
state, working in iron, and spinning buaze, and 
sowing grain extensively.” Buaze is a fibre 
used for nets. He is speaking there of a popula 
tion which had not been visited by the slave 
traders. 
^•116. 
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Mr. E. 
Hutchinson. 
25 July 
1871. 
Rev. 
H. Waller.