Vieh und Fleisch in der deutschen Kriegswirtschaft

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Identifikator:: 1014959020

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Author:: Krüger, Hans

Title:: Vieh und Fleisch in der deutschen Kriegswirtschaft

Place of publication:: Berlin

Publisher:: Verlag der Beiträge zur Kriegswirtschaft Reimar Hobbing (Sonder-Konto)

Year of publication:: 1917

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Title:: IV. Die Bewirtschaftung und Verbrauchsregelung für Vieh und Fleisch im Kommunalverbande / von Stadtrat Dr. Hans Krüger, Dresden, Mitglied des Vorstandes des Kriegsernährungsamtes

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9 ON SLAVE TRADE (EAST COAST OF AFRICA). 140. Sir J. Hay.'\ As the distance increases Irom which the slaves have to be fetched, so do the suflPerings of the slaves and the loss of life among them increase ?—No doubt. 141. Chairman^] What is your opinion as to ^^®^Gst course to pursue in order to suppress the ti'affic in slaves on the east coast ?—I cannot say iRore than that I adhere entirely to the opinions ^hich the Committee enunciate in this report ; I dp not think it has been sufficiently understood ß^her by the Government or by such Members this House as have taken an interest in the •luestion, that we proposed to attach to the treaty absolute stipulation that within a certain time the traffic should cease altogether, that there should be no transport by sea of slaves. We do not Pî^opose to do it suddenly, but gradually, and with an independent sovereign whose independence we h^^’e guaranteed ; I do not think it right that we slumld take him by the throat and say, at the risk of losing your kingdom put a stop altogether 0 traffic in slaves by sea. 142. Have any communications taken place between our Government and the French Go- 'Vernment respecting their policy with regard to Ihe slave trade on the east coast of Africa ?— Yes ; as I have already stated we have drawn their attention strongly to cases in which there Was a suspicion that the French flag was abused for slave trade jiurposes, and they have promised return to make inquiries, at the same time they deny the accuracy of our information ; I be- love they are honestly anxious to put down the trade. I4d. Under whose direct orders does the political agent at Zanzibar act ? — He acts orders of the Bombay Goverment, subject to the control of the Secretary of State tor India over here. But, after the Report of Committee, in which we recommended strongly that the expenses of the agency should e shared between ourselves and the India Office, e agreed with the India Office that in all slave matters he should be under the control of .®oretary of State for Foreign Affairs, and ^ in all Indian matters he should be under the on rol of the Secretary of State for India, atterly the India Office have said, in conse quence of the refusal of the Government to pay ^nything towards the expenses of the agency, lat they would put the office on an entirely new ooting, having reference solely to Indian inte rests. . Mr. Kennaway7\ Do you know whether Ellice the issuing of this Report, any decision has eenconie-to by the Indian Government as to e leving the Sultan from the payment of the sidy to the Imaum of Muscat ?—Sir J ohn ay will be better able to give information upon 5. Has any effort been made to get the ^?-eperate with us ?—No, I do not +1 ^ ® Americans have a consulate there even ; there is a North German consul, a French con- Sill, and our consul. Have you any other sug- ^ make to the Committee with a view to slave trade on the east mnii 9 than those you have already thaf^* very glad to see the interest beginning to be taken in the matter ; I affairs out there are in as unsatisfactory a ate as they possibly could be, and I think it ii that something should be done is In my opinion the best plan of doing it is that which the Committee have suggested, viz., gra dually to seal up the ports on the coast, and forbid the transport of slaves altogether. In addition to that, I think that the Northern Arabs ought to be prevented coming down at all ; they do a great deal of mischief ; they are not legal traders, and there is no doubt they are breaking the treaty. 147. Probably the delay that has taken place in carrying out the recommendations of the Re port of that Committee, may have induced this revival of the trade of which we hear?—It may have had something to do with it ; it is also to be borne in mind that there was cholera on the coast last year, and the operatic as of the slave trade squadron were suspended for some time ; and also, there having been a diminution in the number of slaves supplied, probably there was a greater demand for them this year. 148. The action of the squadron, though not perfect, has, I suppose, been of immense service in checking the trade ?—No doubt, but still our attempts to suppress the slave trade cause great loss of life, because whenever a cruiser is seen they run the vessel on shore,caring nothing what becomes of the slaves. I should like to see the action of the squadron supplemented by the other means of suppression to which I have referred. 149. Chairman.'] You agree probably with what was stated the other evening, that one con sular agent is worth a vessel ?—No doubt. 150. Mr. Kinnaird.] This Report has been in the hands of Members of Parliament for some months ?—Yes. 151. And it has been in the hands of the Government since January 1870 ?—Yes. 152. Do you attribute the delay which has arisen in carrying out the recommendations of the Report to the want of the means of carrying it out?—The provisions of the proposed treaty have not yet been accepted, but probably if the Govern ment were determined to push their policy on that coast, they would go to work in a more energetic manner than they have done hitherto. It was of no use proposing to carry out one-half of a measure, if the other half was not to be carried out. 153. The sooner you can get this question brought to an issue the better ?—Yes, if this Session, so much the better ; you will not do it without expense; you must expect to spend money. 154. But with regard to expense, you think that a fair and legitimate trade would spring up, which would soon compensate any expense that would be temporarily incurred inputting down the slave trade ?—I think so. You will have better information upon that point from local men, but that is the opinion I should form from the in formation that we receive. 155. Is Persia in any way mixed up in this question?—Yes; and as I have already stated, we have a treaty with Persia. 156. Does Persia carry out the treaty fairly ? —I have no doubt they bring in slaves landed in the Persian Gulf ; they import slaves by land ; they have refused to bind themselves not to im port slaves by land. 157. You think the argument that the Sultan would most understand, as an inducement to put down the slave traffic, would be a pecuniary consideration ?—I think it would have a very great effect ; naturally, a man does not like to lose 120,000/. of his revenue, and moreover an Arab B does Hon. C. Vivian. 10 July 1871.

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