München als Industriestadt

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Identifikator:: 1020784822

URN:: urn:nbn:de:zbw-retromon-33588

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Author:: Fritz, Carl http://d-nb.info/gnd/1050470273

Title:: München als Industriestadt

Place of publication:: Berlin

Publisher:: Puttkammer & Mühlbrecht, Buchhandlung f. Staats- u. Rechtswissenschaft

Year of publication:: 1913

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Title:: Vierter Abschnitt, Teil II. Kunstgewerbe-Industrie

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50 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Maj. Gen. Sultan might be induced to give up the slave C. P. Righy. trade if the 40,000 dollars which he annually pays as subsidy to the Imaum of Muscat, were re- 20 July mitted, I am convinced that he'would never fall ^ into that arrangement. When the mission was over here that was a point which the secretary urged upon me more than any other ; he said the Sultan of Zanzibar would rather give up the country and go to live at Mecca for the rest of his days. I think any negotiation upon that basis would be sure to fail ; the Sultan would look upon it as a great humiliation, and it would be so considered by all the Arabs ; they would say, there is the Sultan of Zanzibar become a paid servant of the Feringhee, and the chances are that he would lose his life. 631. Would you abolish the trade and give him no compensation?—I -would not give him any compensation ; I do not see on what ground he can be supposed to be entitled to compensa tion for giving up this horrible slave trade, which they have carried on for years in defiance of treaties, and in defiance of all laws. 632. You do not agree with the witnesses who have stated that it would cause a revolution in Zanzibar if the slave trade Avere put doAvn ?— No ; I think the Arabs are now quite prepared for its suppression ; it has been dinned into their ears for so many years, and they have seen slaves emancipated in so many other places, that I think they are quite prepared to see our Go vernment setting to work to put a stop to it. 633. Sir R. Anstruther.~\ Do you agree Avith the statement in the paragraph at page 4 of the Foreign Office Report, that “the commerce of Zanzibar might be ruined if it Avere at once deprived of the slave labour on AAhich it has hitherto relied, before proper provision is made for supplying free labour in its stead?”—I do not think it Avould interfere Avith the commerce of Zanzibar in the slightest degree ; I think the Arabs would find their slaves more valuable ; they Avould take more care of them, and there would be less mortality amongst them ; and if the slave trade was prohibited so that free men could come and work there, there Avould be abundance of free labour, because, if the slave trade were abolished, thousands of people from Madagascar, from the Comoro Islands, and from India Avould come and reside at Zanzibar ; but the mere fact of all agricultural labour being done by slaves, deters those people at present from coming and engaging themselves in that work, because they think it degrades them to Avork side by side Avith slaves. 634. In a preAuous part of the Report reference is made to the loss of revenue that Avould be in curred by the abolition of the trade. Would you propose to abolish the trade AAuthout compensating the Sultan in anyAvayfor the loss of revenue which he Avould thereby incur ?—As I have already stated, I think the loss of revenue would be very trivial indeed ; his revenue from other sources is so rapidly increasing that he Avould not feel very much the loss of that which he at present receives from slaves. 635. Mr. Kennaway.~\ You expect him to give up the 20,000 /. Avhich he is supposed to derive from the slave trade; that is a “ decree of fate” which a man does not submit to without a struggle generally ?—I think, at the outside, it cannot be more than 8,000 1. which he gets from the duty on slaves. Mr. Churchill, I think, takes the whole number of slaves landed, including the slaAys belonging to members of the Sultan’s family Avhich do not pay any duty, and there are a great many branches of the Sultan’s family, the members of Avhich are the chief slave dealers. 636. Do you think that the British Indian sub jects in Zanzibar are in any Avay supporters of the slaA^e trade?—They were very large supporters of the slave trade till I put a stop to it by putting up a notice at the Custom House and on the gates of the Consulate, that whereas I had dis covered that British subjects Avere holding slaves in violation of the laAA's, they Avould be alloAved one month from that date to emancipate them legally, and, failing to do so, the provisions of the Act 5 Geo. 4 Avould be applied to them. At the end of the month many of them did not emancipate their slaves, and they AA’^ere fined and imprisoned ; and gradually I forced them all to emancipate their slaves; but after I left, the officer Avho succeeded me took a different view of it, and he held that we had no right to do this with regard to native Indians Avho belonged to protected States ; and they have been alToAved, unfortunately, to become slave holders again. 637. By taking the protection of other states ? No, merely on the ground that they Avere not directly British subjects, but only subjects of British protected states like Kutch. 638. M ou Id they, in claiming to hold slaves, deprive themselves of the protection of the British Consulate ?—I do not knoAV on Avhat terms it was done, but I suppose those Avho declared them selves subjects of Kutch or Kattywar Avere allowed to throAV off their allegiance. 639. Mr. Shaw Lefevre.~\ They then became entitled to hold slaves ?—Yes; I put a stop to their holding slaves, on this ground, that those men in their OAvn country Avould not be alloAved to hold slaves, for they Avould be prohibited by the British as the superior poAver, and it Avas not right that the subjects of those very states o-oing to Zanzibar should be permitted to hold sla-^es. 640. Now, if a man wishes to hold slaves, all he has to do is to change his nationality?—Yes. 641. Sir J. HayJ\ The Naturalisation Act Avas not in force Avhen you were there ?—No, they Avere prohibited from holding slaves ; I understand that the natives of India are going to take advantage of the Naturalisation Act, and to throAV off their allegiance to the British Govern ment on purpose to be able to trade in slaA^es. 642. Mr. Churchill states that they haA'O already done so ?—I am sorry to hear it ; it AviH open a new^ field for slavery; a great proportion of the plantations on the Island of Zanzibar noAf belong to British subjects ; the Arabs are very dissipated and reckless, and they have morto-ao-ed most of their plantations to those wealthy BanianS and Indian Mahommedans. 643. Who, having been British subjects, havß noAv become Zanzibar subjects ?—They Averc obliged, as long as they were British subjects, to cultivate their plantations by free labour ; noA^ they Avill buy slaves and cultivate them with slave labour again. 644. You have no doubt that Mr. ChurchilD evidence upon that point is correct?—No; Dt* Kirk has Avritten to the same effect; that is aß additional argument Aiffiy we should stop tb^ whole trade summarily. 645. Mr. Kennaivay.\ Do you know anything of the slave trade which is carried on betivecß the interior of Africa and Egypt, by Zanzibar ? That has sprung up chiefly since the abolition 01

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