280 PART V: 
. Mr. BECKLEY said that there were two main classes of 
JAnvestigation, i.e. :— 
(1! Those necessary in each territory which were mainly of local 
interest; and 
2, Those affecting more than one territory of fundamental 
importance. 
For investigations falling under the first category, local knowledge 
was essential; it would be impossible for technical officers at a central 
research station to have the required knowledge. Furthermore, if all 
scientific officers were transferred to Amani much of the work of the 
Institute would be routine and the staff would have to be very large 
as otherwise the research work would suffer. Amani should investigate 
items of fundamental importance, which scientific officers of the 
various territories were unable to investigate owing to pressure from 
local problems. 
Mr. KIRKPATRICK, in reply to Mr. Hargreaves, stated that he 
considered that one of the normal functions of an Institute, such as 
Amani, would be, for instance, research into the tropisms of insects. 
Research such as this was outside the scope of officers of Agricultural 
Departments, and they had neither the time nor facilities for under- 
taking it. In a subject such as this, no results could probably be 
achieved in two or three years, but the effect of ten or fifteen years 
of continuous work would be extremely valuable. 
Mr. KIRKHAM said he had given very considerable attention to 
science and agriculture, and their organisation. They were on the 
verge of a great expansion of scientific research throughout the Empire. 
Science was organised knowledge but in itself it lacked organisation 
at present; eventually this organisation must come, and it 
was important that the question should be very carefully considered. 
He agreed that Amani could not possibly undertake all research in the 
East African territories, and it was difficult to formulate a scheme for 
the complementary work which it should carry out, as it would find 
it difficult to satisfy everyone if all territories had a claim on Amani 
staff. Considerable funds would be placed at their disposal from the 
ten million loan, and they must find the best means of making use of 
it. 
Directors of Agriculture could not agree to a reduction in their 
present services; at the ' same time entomologists, mycologists, 
chemists, plant breeders, ete., all felt that something should be done 
to co-ordinate their work. The staff at Amani would presumably 
include representatives of every branch oi agricultural science, and it 
should fall to them to co-ordinate the work in the different territories. 
Ultimately, this organisation would lead up to a general scientific 
service for East African territories, and the scientific staff would 
become officers of a comprehensive service, whose headquarters should 
be well equipped with laboratories, where officers could be sent to 
carry out work which was not possible locally, owing to lack of 
facilities. ~~ Furthermore, such a comprehensive service would give 
improved prospects to the scientific officer. 
Mr. BURTON considered that the best use for Amani would be 
in carrying out such research work as the various Dependencies 
required, but that it should not be in a position to dictate to Depart- 
ments of Aoriculture as to what research should be carried out. He